I came to get a few laughs but it sounds like you were really hurt by some church growing up. your comments are offensive, you are narrow minded. Pastor and his wife paid for reception, photographers, and and shower. WebThe Road to Emmaus Baptist Church is an independent Baptist church in Monaca, Pennsylvania. I go to an IFB church and thought a few of your statements could be funny if in the right spirit, some not so much and others I found untrue altogether. Im glad they didnt because Id probably be ashamed admitting Im a liar. This is an independent fundamental Baptist program that has chapters in churches all across the country. I wonder sometimes if the pastor didnt hit one of your sins and instead of getting you under conviction, you just got angry. https://baptistdeception.com/tithing/. 2. People can ask for clarification if they want. Most people find it hard to swallow that anyone really thinks that way at all. N/A Hypocrites! For they dont practice what they teach. 24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing. Like I said, funny post, but a bit judgmental as well. You are correct! Mind your own business. Being a IFB preacher, I confess a lot of truth here. Please dont mistake this for a lack of respect or an attempt to minimize the seriousness of the abuse that happens among the Independent Fundamental Bapitsts. Does the lord convict me when I miss? If you pray using the KJV language I dont pray like that except when I recite the Lords Prayer because nobody talks like that anymore. Thanks for being thankful for the grace God has giving us. Baptist Churches Since 1975 Are From the Ministry of a Man of Whom it Has Been Said: You are probably the most childish acting preacher The school was run by Lester Roloff, an independent fundamental Baptist preacher who broke from the Southern Baptist Convention in 1954 and founded a series Gods people are the Jews.. from Jew-dajudah. Ive addressed the scriptures about tithing in my article and explain it using proper exegesis and hermeneutics. The New Independent Fundamental Baptist network, most prominently associated with anti-LGBTQ pastor Steven Anderson, appears to be in turmoil as infighting again erupts, this time between Anderson and fellow pastors in the network. Yes but this is my concern about the IFB beliefs and I understand this was written to make it funny. I dont post this to to attack you, nor defend Dave, rather to simply point out that perhaps both are not setting the best of examples? We believe that the souls of unbelievers remain, after death, in conscious misery until the second resurrection, when with soul and body reunited they shall appear at the Great White Throne Judgment, and shall be cast into the Lake of Fire, not to be annihilated, but to suffer everlasting, conscious punishment (Luke 16:19-26; Matthew 25:41-46; II Thessalonians 1:7-9; Jude 6-7; Mark 9:43-48; Revelation 20:11-15). Only thing Ill add to the list is, You might be an IFB if you greet all visitors with huge smiles, handshakes, and extreme cheerfulness. I feel sorry for all the visitors we almost accosted now; no wonder some never came back! I wanted to go to church but was not able to. If you stay, Im almost certain youll end up regretting it. If you refuse to eat at a restaurant because they serve alcoholic beverages, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 27. To love Jesus is to love his word and follow his commands because we love him. You can be saved and live however, but there will be consequences the saddest consequence of this behavior is your relationship with God will be Hindered greatly or little. The establishment and continuance of local churches is clearly taught and defined in te New Testa ment Scriptures (Acts 14:27; 20:17, 28-32; I Timothy 3:1-13; Titus 1:5-11). WebBaptist beliefs are seen as belonging to three parties: General Baptists who uphold Arminian soteriology, Particular Baptists who uphold Calvinist soteriology, and Independent Baptists, who might embrace a strict version of either Arminianism or Calvinism, but are most notable for their fundamentalist positions on Biblical 4,2, and 7 month old. Even the General Baptists and the Free Will Baptists denounce eternal security, thus the only two Baptist groups that believe in Free Will. 24. 5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brothers eye. Section 1: General This is a sovereign and democratic independent fundamental Baptist church under the Lordship of Jesus Christ. 10. is Looking to God for missionaries to help expand the vision and ministries of G.F.F. 22 And when you swear by heaven, you are swearing by the throne of God and by God, who sits on the throne. I only hope that you will see it before too long. He perhaps worded somethings poorly perhaps, but he is completely turned off by your attitude and responses Steve. Please read https://baptistdeception.com/bitterness-deception/ for an answer to your bitterness accusation/assumption. Since God looks at Jesus to forgive Ill look at Jesus also to forgive. If you think that tithing of ten percent of your income is the minimum I dont have any position on this even though I do believe in tithes and offerings. Members all so giving that it made me want to be a giving person. We are not affiliated with any man-made external organization be it a Convention, Association, Fellowship, or National Denomination. If you believe that going to (or sending your child to) a college thats not approved by the IFB (e.g., Bob Jones University, Pensacola Bible College, Baptist Bible College, Hyles Anderson College, Tennessee Temple University) will cause you (or your child) to become worldly or will provide an undue worldly influence on you (or your child), you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 29. Teaching there is any unforgivable sin besides the sin of unbelief in Jesus Christ is not biblical. However, the churches are united by a number of doctrines. Our path is narrow, must we fight amongst each other while we walk it? Jesus died for all, and if God is willing to forgive me because Jesus died for me than I will forgive another because Jesus died for them too. Lol. (Genesis 2:24; Genesis 19:5, 13; Genesis 26:8-9; Leviticus 18:1-30; Romans 1:26-29; 1 Corinthians 5:1, 6:9; 1 Thessalonians 4:1-8; Hebrews 13:4). God has given each institution specific Biblical responsibilities and has balanced those responsibilities with the understanding that no institution has the right to infringe upon the other. 2. IFB people as a whole, are generally willfully ignorant people. Marriage for two people that want to make a life together is biblical. I dont believe they bought our loyalty, because we werent of any good investment. 31. are the result of sin and poor choices, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 46. We believe the Blessed Hope of our Lord's return is literal, personal, visible, imminent, premillennial, and pretribulational. 19 How blind! 7 They love to receive respectful greetings as they walk in the marketplaces, and to be called Rabbi.. I was taught that I needed to let God change him. 3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brothers eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? 29. The New IFB began with Steven Anderson of Faithful Word Baptist Church in response to perceived liberalism in other independent Baptist churches. I am also against body piercings as well. Or deciding not to clap for special music? It seems most on here have a issue with IFB churches. The independent fundamentalist Baptist movement emerged sometime in the 1940s as an attempt to continue the legacy of the fundamentalist movement of the 16 Blind guides! If people asked rather than assumed there would be a lot less reactions. 27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish. The IFB is the organization hurting His cause. Pastor preaches against smoking because it is bad for the body My preacher never preaches that though there are very few people at my current church that smoke. If you should cut your vacation short you should never miss church this has happened only once in my life when I went I was on my senior class trip. If they are saved , I dare say they regret the day they walked into the very church you enjoy making fun of. We can joke around about a differing denomination that we dont agree with, but how we react to a situation that wasnt intended, also matters greatly. Using guitars in church is too liberal That was not the case at the church I grew up in when the last pastor I had when he came to Mountain Church of Christ when he first arrived (which is instrumental though membership is small). 25. WebIndependent Fundamental Churches of America, fellowship of conservative, independent Christian churches stressing biblical truth. Praise the lord for giving it to us. This is the same pastor who said, you can come and let us tell you how you can know how you can know for sure how you can make Heaven your home. Auckland, New Zealand, New IFB pastor Logan Robertson was deported from Australia in July 2018 after being accused of harassing Muslims at two Brisbane mosques. 31 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh. God is the only one who can forgive mans sins. If that is the case, you might as well go out and live like hell, because you are not interested in what God says anyway. The New IFB is strongly opposed to homosexuality, with several pastors advocating the belief that homosexuals should be executed by the government. Sin is sin and the Holy Spirit works in us to pinpoint where we need to change and this happens while we are in the word. you DVR the Superbowl (or watch sport center on your phone in the vestibule) because you cant miss church. Abortion constitutes the unjustified, inexcusable taking of unborn human life. Your happy mega churches do too. JUDAH. Ive read all the comments posted so far, but I dont fall into many of those categories as an IFB and Ive been an IFB for almost 13yrs now. Jesus does that. 13. OMG! 10 And dont let anyone call you Teacher, for you have only one teacher, the Messiah. In 1974 Kenneth Chrismans father passed away. The Bible gives qualifications for each office. 28 Outwardly you look like righteous people, but inwardly your hearts are filled with hypocrisy and lawlessness. We dont believe if you get rid of all the sin in your life youll be a completely healthy person. Remember when Jesus rebuked the Pharisees? I dare say probably not. Would you go back and pet a dog after it bit you? We fellowship with sister churches of like precious faith and practice, and support missionaries sent forth by the authority of such churches. From my perspective turning people away from the IFB is turning them towards God. If you think that anything other than what your church teaches about salvation is easy believism, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist. If we must consider these points as a point for consideration, these ought to be a source form the Bible. We reject all cooperation with this movement. Maybe you had a bad experience or many years of bad experiences at an IFB church, but that will never excuse you from bad mouthing any of Gods people or the many IFB churches the Lord uses to spread His word or send missionaries to the remotest parts of the world to seek those who are lost. Hypocrites! This list reminded me of a few I forgot about, but one I dont think youve mentioned yet is If your teenage boys and girls have to be separate and swim in different pools or at different times when you are on a teen outing or camping trip lol. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. Joh 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. This Bible is preserved for the English speaking world without error in the King James Version. THE PARABLE IS NOT A GUIDE NOR DID JESUS SAY THAT ITS A MAP ON HOW TO DEAL with a wayward child!! Ive known many people whom God has reached using the IFB. This list are things that are unique to the IFB. I do think that you can drink but you just cant be drink which is a legalistic problem within most Independent Fundamental Baptists. If your church allows no outside group of singers to perform at your church for fear that not all of their individual theologies line up with the churchs you might be an independent fundamental Baptist. 1. So the IFB pastor did counseling for 2 weeks and then, despite physical abuse, told you to get married! If you believe that all Catholics are going to hell, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 35. They are shared in my article about tithing: https://baptistdeception.com/tithing/. Suits and ties are generally not required today for men , except for ministers, though some churches do require suits and ties and I dont know any that I do of. (Ephesians 2:8-10; John 1:12; I Peter 1:18-19). 25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it; 26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word. N/A Read Matthew 23 for more information. We believe that God forbids any attempt to alter one's God-given gender identity by any means, including surgery or appearance. 21. I believe being separate is doing what God has commanded you to do. Please get away from the IFB as far as you can, as fast as you can. Ask questions if you need to and Ill be happy to explain more. I could come to him with anything that was bothering or troubling me and he NEVER judged me or held me in contempt by making me feel like I was less than or not good enough. Attending all three, in my opinion, is optional. I hope you found some church that preaches the truth (even though they may differ on some things with me). 53. Of course these cultural attachments border on the cultic, no doubt are legalistic, and hopefully will disappear eventually as the old guard depart their bondage in this life for Glory! 16. Wow, nice list. Besides I dont understand why you shouldnt listen to Contemporary Christian music. Everyone has health issues. I found myself laughing at quite a few of these because they are things that I used to believe. Rather than attack one another, perhaps understand where both are coming from? I dont see how. Even when the family goes on vacation, we go to church. Wow! Most Christians believe everything in the Bible. Well the whole point of being an independent church is that there is no one that you are responsible to. If you think anything what the churches teach about salvation is easy believing this is not true in our congregation. A friendly fellowship group for members of local New Testament Independent Baptist churches. There are some things that the IFB does very well, such as fellowship. I mean, why would you think its too liberal to sing anything other than hymns in the church because, there are some churches within the Southern Baptist Convention, which is different from the IFB, that have a contemporary music worship in one service and have traditional hymns in another service. The verses you quoted are taken out of context and dont mean what you imply them to mean. If you think that you can be a better Christian or have more favor with God with good performance, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 54. We believe that the Scriptures are inerrant, infallible, and God-breathed. So spontaneous but like it was planned. Baptists are traditionally strong believers in Biblical authority. I actually looked up the word just now (Random House Websters College Dictionary), and here are the definitions: 3.) You wont go in yourselves, and you dont let others enter either. We believe that Jesus Christ died for every man, and that each individual chooses to accept or reject the grace of God (Hebrews 2:9; I John 2:2). Pastor Wilkerson was the one and ONLY pastor who allowed me to work passionately in what ever church ministry I chosen. If you confuse the KJV with the KJB, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 3. We dont forgive people for their salvation we cant because we arent Jesus. 19:13-15. Pastor and his wife knew where we lived and probably wondered why, but they never asked or pried. Thats The Holy Spirit speaking to me. Is that what the great commission tells us to do: Matthew 28:19 Go ye therefore, and send lost loved ones to an IFB church so that they might be saved (DHV Don Holt Version). Why would I even send a lost loved one to church instead of sharing the gospel with them for that matter? Theres a place to rebuke abusive religious practices. No denomination, governmental body, or religious hierarchy may dictate the church's beliefs or practices. All youve done in your last paragraph is parrot typical IFB talking points no substance there, just regurgitation. 50. If you think that tithing 10% of your gross income is the minimum, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 6. 44. Same position regarding IFB belief 29. Reading any other version outside of the King James Version is sin same concern as I mentioned topic 1 The explosion caused property damage but no injuries or deaths. Welpjust commented for the sake of the few who posted comments and clearly are rowing the same boat as I! If you laugh (snicker, sneer, roll your eyes, etc.) If you think that any rational thought is dangerous because it may lead you to believe something different than what the IFB believes, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 50. 26 You blind Pharisee! Clearly only one unforgivable sin is mentioned in the Bible (KJV even) and that isnt it. Instead of reprimanding me why dont you pray for the lost? People that are lost cant do what God has commanded because of unbelief. 2Co 2:10 To whom ye forgive any thing, I forgive also: for if I forgave any thing, to whom I forgave it, for your sakes forgave I it in the person of Christ; You said we dont forgive people for their salvation we cant because we arent Jesus.